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Wednesday, January 21st, 2009
Hi Julie,
I was taking generic Lamictal for 4 weeks during December, but around Christmas the side effects-headache, anxiety-became too much on 50mg. I know you’re not a doctor, but in your experience do these subside over time. I’m a street musician in Portland and just getting turned on to your bi-polar crusade. Your work looks pretty amazing.
Regards,
Ted
Hi Ted,
Well, side effects are so tricky as they depend on the person. For example, I take 500mg of generic Lamictal (also called generic Lamotrigine) and have more side effects when my dose gets too low!
The normal Lamictal dose is 250mg- but that is just an average. What matters is that it works- the dose depends on the person taking the meds.
My first question would be just that- did it work? If it did, you may want to wait out the side effects if you can- if they are even moderately tolerable. It’s such a great drug when it works, but the side effects can be tough. I had them for three months until they got better. Mine were severe neck stiffness and breathing problems. Now I get the restless legs and twitching! It is an anti epileptic drug, so it makes sense it would really affect our nervous systems. If the side effects really are impossible to live with, you have some options.
If you are well enough to function in terms of bipolar- then you can talk to your doctor about going onto a lower dose until you can tolerate the side effects and then very slowing going up in dose. You have to be really careful about going down in dose though as withdrawal can be tough and painful!
This is definitely something to talk about with your doctor. I would have a list of questions to ask so that you can get the most out of an office visit. I don’t suggest doing this on your own as you need to be closely monitored for mood swings. I went down too quickly once and got super depressed.
It can take many months for a medication to work and many months for the side effects to lessen. Sometimes, they don’t go away and you have to switch meds. I hope your side effects can get better as Lamictal is such an amazing drug.
Good luck, maybe I will see you when I walk around in Portland!
Julie
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Saturday, January 17th, 2009
I’ve written a lot about Lamictal and Generic Lamictal (Lamotrigine) the past few months. This is the drug I take as do many other people with bipolar disorder. One reader commented that she couldn’t sleep when she was on Lamictal. That was a side effect I had not heard. Other people have had the same problem- here is a comment from a reader:
Hi Julie,
It took nine months before I could sleep without some sleep aid. Low doses of Zyprexa or levomepromazin helped.
Lena
Hi Lena,
A friend of mine has had trouble sleeping and her doctor suggested that she use a small dose of Zyprexa. She knows it will work, but she’s scared to feel like a zombie again. She just started a new job. It’s frustrating for her. Others use the Zyprexa with great success. She has to find something that will work for her.
I wasn’t familiar with the other drug you mentioned, so I looked it up.
Levomepromazin is an anti psychotic that has strong sedative effects. I can see how it would work like Zyprexa in terms of sleep. Currently, Levomepromazine is not registered in the USA. In Europe it has been marketed for decades as Neurocil® and Nozinan®.
Nozinan® is also available in Canada.
I also read that it has a lot of side effects in high doses which may be why it’s not used as an anti psychotic in the US. Or, of course, it could just be something economic!
Severe sleep problems are really dangerous for people with bipolar disorder, so if you’re having trouble sleeping, talk to your doctor and get more information. Also, make sure your sleep problems are not a result of mania!
Some drugs, like Lamictal produce such unbelievable relief- people are willing to stay on then despite the side effects. Sometimes the side effects are just too strong. It depends on the person. The good news is that side effects often get a lot better if you can make it through the first three to six months.
Julie
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Wednesday, January 14th, 2009
I really want to answer the comments I get under my blog entries, so here is one from today!
Hi Julie,
I was recently diagnosed with bipolar.I am now taking Lamictal. The only side effect Ive had is sleeplessness. I ’ sleep, I cant sleep, I quit coffee. I quit drinking coke. I have done everything to sleep. I get maybe 3 hours if ’ lucky. I’m new to this drug on my first week so I am on a low dosage. 25mg. for the first 14 days. Does this get better?? Do you sleep finally as the dose gets bigger! UGH!!
Hi Deborah,
There are so many different side effects with each drug. The drugs can even cause opposite side effects such as making one person sleepy and the other revved up. I have not heard of Lamictal causing sleeplessness, but it’s certainly a possibility. Also, that really is a small dose. It’s very good to start small and go up. The general dose is 250mg though it ranges greatly. My mom takes 100mg and I take 500mg! I started at 10mg.
Sleep problems can really exacerbate bipolar disorder as they can lead to mania- on the other hand- mania can cause the sleep problems. Here’s how to know the difference:
When a person has sleep problems with mania, they don’t tend to be tired the next day. They can get up and get on with their day with energy. Do you feel normal the next day?
Sleep problems due to a drug often make the person tired, upset and unfocused the next day- or even abnormally tired, such as falling asleep in the middle of the day and drooling on a pillow. I call this pass out sleeping.
The question is how you feel the next day after you don’t sleep.
Next question, Did you try any other meds before you went on Lamictal? Are they still in your system?
Side effects definitely lessen, but sleep issues are too serious to ignore. I would talk with your doctor and explain the symptoms. It may be you need a sleep aid such as Ativan (which is what I use) to help you sleep so the Lamictal can work. But… you don’t really want to take that every night. Another option is one of the new drugs such as Lunesta. Also, ask your doctor about using Benedryl.
There are definitely choices, but you really need to tell your doctor what is happening as you have to make sure it’s not mania! Please keep me posted.
Julie
PS: Here is some advice from Shana:
Hi Julie, just wanted to let you know that sleeplessness is a side effect of lamictal. Strangely, it is not one identified often by the manufacturer or by medical sites. However it is repeated as anecdotal on various side effect forums on the ‘net.
I myself experienced it. It was terrible. Thankfully it went away after a few months!
** I love to hear from readers who have experienced similar symptoms. So now we know- Lamictal can defintely cause sleeplessness- when this happens, definitely talk to your doctor and get some sleep help. For many of us, Lamictal is definitely worth it. I really need to start calling it Generic Lamotrigine!
julie
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Tuesday, January 6th, 2009
Hi Julie,
I just read all the blogs and comments on Lamictal (and the generic) and they really answered a lot of questions for me. First off, and I know you’re not supposed to do this, but my daughter had some left over when she tried it so I used those up before I refilled my prescription. I noticed a couple of different things that happened to me while taking her prescription but I blew them off not even thinking about them until I read the blogs. The first one was a twitch I got in my left hand when using the computer mouse and the second one is the rash that I got on my chest just above the breast. I am very thankful that all of you talked about the Lamictal side effects. The only thing is these symptoms didn’t show up until I used my daughter’s prescription. Could it have been because of the age of the pills? Everything else about them is the same as mine. I just wasn’t sure if there is an expiration date on them or not but this is my only explanation of these 2 symptoms. What do y’all think?
Tamara
Hi Tamara,
It’s always best to talk with your doctor regarding the rash. There is one serious rash, but very few people get it- I know of one who had to stop the drug out of the hundreds of people I know who take Lamictal. The rash is often benign and can be treated with benedryl. Defintely call your doctor though and just give them an update. I have to stress that a mild rash is very normal. A rash that really itches with oozing sores like poison ivy is not ok! I still get a lot of itching from the drug, but I live with it. I always say it’s best to check in with a health care professional. My coauthor Dr. John Preston is my source of info, so I’m lucky I can call him with all of my questions and he mentioned that most are benign.
Remember, I am not a medical doctor!
As for the twitching- you should see me when it really gets going! It’s pretty comical. It’s very uncomfortable- especially in the legs. I know it means my dose is not correct. There is NO question that my side effects increased when I had to start the generic Lamictal, but the meds are working and that is all that matters to me. I’ve found that the side effects calm down over time.
Regarding taking your daughter’s pills, I use my mom’s pills if I forget mine. She is on Lamictal as well. I say it’s a lot better to take what is there than to go without! The age of the Lamictal is a question you can ask you doctor or pharmacist. If you switched between regular and generic that may be the problem. This is beacuse the way they make the pills can be differnt and we absorb the drugs differently. I assume my body will adjust.
I love this drug as you know, but the side effects can definitely be strong. But not as strong as Zyprexa for example. I can live with them.
Thanks for your question and definitely check in with your doctor about the rash if it continues, spreads or oozes! Mine comes and goes so I can live with it!
Julie
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Saturday, January 3rd, 2009
Well, I have been traveling for a week- first to Texas and now in Florida. It has been great, but I have had a lot of sleep and medication problems.
I am really uncomfortable as I write this- I have what I call the Lamictal twitches and I feel like I’m going to crawl out of my skin. I hate it. I’m pretty sure I took my dose this morning, so this is odd. It’s amazing how uncomfortable these side effects can be. It’s hard to live with sometimes- but the Lamictal is worth it for me.
Actually, I should say Lamotrigine as I am now on the generic. Who knows if the side effects worsened because of the medication change. I have not seen a change in my moods, so that is all that matters. There is a big discussion on the generic Lamictal on the blog- if you go to the right side menu and click on Lamictal, you can see all of the entries.
OK. I have to stand up or I am going to twitch out of my chair!
Julie
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Tuesday, December 16th, 2008
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the great comments on the Lamictal posting below. Here is some information on Glaxo’s program. They make Lamictal- it’s now available in generic, but if you qualify, this may be cheaper. For those of you new to Lamictal- it’s an anti convulsant used to treat bipolar depression. It has helped so many people, but it’s expensive. Thank heavens for generic!
**
Most major drug companies have programs to help low income people with bipolar disorder get prescription help. Here is a link for GlaxoSmithKline, the makers of Lamictal.
http://www.gskforyou.com/
I have to ask this- where is the help for the middle class!!!
Julie
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Monday, December 15th, 2008
Here is a comment from Gina about running out of (Lamotrigine):
Hi Julie,
I’m gonna run out of Lamictal before the year ends and insurance won’t cover any till after 1/1. I take 400mg per day, what can I do to stretch this out? I can’t afford to buy them! The doctor didn’t have any samples.
Any ideas?
I called GSK and because I can’t scrape up $600 worth of receipts for this year they won’t help me. Other drs office has no samples. It was like $18 per day to get just enough to get me into next year. It’s nerve wracking coming off 400 mg per day down to so little though. I definitely had some bad timing this year. I’m on medicare part D and am in the gap where I have to pay everything in cash. Of course, I’m not allowed to post on freecycle (already tried!) because it’s a prescription. I wish I knew someone else I could borrow some from and then give them back in January. I don’t know what to do.Hi Gina,
I know exactly how you feel about this. My Lamictal is so incredibly expensive without insurance and it’s scary to run out. Lamictal, as you can tell has some serious withdrawal symptoms. So, you already called Glaxo- for those reading who don’t know, the major drug companies have programs where people can apply for reduced cost and sometimes free prescriptions. I am sorry that didn’t work as it would be one of my first suggestions. I also know that Lamictal is not a normal sample for a doctor’s office. Drug reps seem to give out anti depressants like candy, but not the really expensive stuff like Lamictal.
By the way- I take 500 mg a day- which is a really high dose and my prescription would be over $600 a month without insurance. As of now, I have a $70 co-pay as I don’t use generic. The generic runs about $300 a month.
It’s great that you tried as many options as possible, but it’s too bad that they didn’t work out! So, here are some ideas. I assume the $18 a day is a generic option. Can you borrow money from a large number of people? For example- $10 here and $20 there. You will have to come up with around $300 I guess. Sometimes it’s too much for one person to do a big loan, but small loans are possible. Have you tried asking at a support group? I am not telling you to do something illegal here- and as you know, I’m not a doctor- but I know that I have some extra around that I could loan out if someone asked. Has your doctor done all that she or he can? Can they call around for some samples? You have tried a lot of the areas I would normally suggest. I wish I had more ideas. When money is the issue, it’s hard to get the medications we need. Another thought, can you do an emergency room visit? I guess it all depends on how well you can handle going two weeks without enough meds. I can’t go for two weeks on a lower dose as I get too ill, so I would go to the emergency room if I had to.
I definitely suggest spreading out what you have as much as possible, as stopping completely will not be fun. Maybe someone else on the blog has more ideas, but I have to say it seems you have been very thorough already. I am glad it’s only two weeks until the beginning of the year! Julie
Here is an update from Gina:
Thank you. I ended up searching those free discount drug cards until I found the one where lamotrigine came up the cheapest for 30 pills (2 weeks). It was $75 from Walgreens. I printed out 3 different ones in case they bawked at the pharmacy, but it went through. It will get me through to the 4th or so, I think. I sure could’ve used that $75 on something else… oh well
Thank you, Gina
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Reader Comment: Lamictal and sleep
Wednesday, January 14th, 2009I really want to answer the comments I get under my blog entries, so here is one from today!
Hi Julie,
I was recently diagnosed with bipolar.I am now taking Lamictal. The only side effect Ive had is sleeplessness. I ’ sleep, I cant sleep, I quit coffee. I quit drinking coke. I have done everything to sleep. I get maybe 3 hours if ’ lucky. I’m new to this drug on my first week so I am on a low dosage. 25mg. for the first 14 days. Does this get better?? Do you sleep finally as the dose gets bigger! UGH!!
Hi Deborah,
There are so many different side effects with each drug. The drugs can even cause opposite side effects such as making one person sleepy and the other revved up. I have not heard of Lamictal causing sleeplessness, but it’s certainly a possibility. Also, that really is a small dose. It’s very good to start small and go up. The general dose is 250mg though it ranges greatly. My mom takes 100mg and I take 500mg! I started at 10mg.
Sleep problems can really exacerbate bipolar disorder as they can lead to mania- on the other hand- mania can cause the sleep problems. Here’s how to know the difference:
When a person has sleep problems with mania, they don’t tend to be tired the next day. They can get up and get on with their day with energy. Do you feel normal the next day?
Sleep problems due to a drug often make the person tired, upset and unfocused the next day- or even abnormally tired, such as falling asleep in the middle of the day and drooling on a pillow. I call this pass out sleeping.
The question is how you feel the next day after you don’t sleep.
Next question, Did you try any other meds before you went on Lamictal? Are they still in your system?
Side effects definitely lessen, but sleep issues are too serious to ignore. I would talk with your doctor and explain the symptoms. It may be you need a sleep aid such as Ativan (which is what I use) to help you sleep so the Lamictal can work. But… you don’t really want to take that every night. Another option is one of the new drugs such as Lunesta. Also, ask your doctor about using Benedryl.
There are definitely choices, but you really need to tell your doctor what is happening as you have to make sure it’s not mania! Please keep me posted.
Julie
PS: Here is some advice from Shana:
Hi Julie, just wanted to let you know that sleeplessness is a side effect of lamictal. Strangely, it is not one identified often by the manufacturer or by medical sites. However it is repeated as anecdotal on various side effect forums on the ‘net.
I myself experienced it. It was terrible. Thankfully it went away after a few months!
** I love to hear from readers who have experienced similar symptoms. So now we know- Lamictal can defintely cause sleeplessness- when this happens, definitely talk to your doctor and get some sleep help. For many of us, Lamictal is definitely worth it. I really need to start calling it Generic Lamotrigine!
julie
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