All people with bipolar disoder know the medication called lithium. Did you know that lithium is measured in the blood to make sure the dose is not too high? In the question below, Dyane asks how she can know what level works the best. I wrote a long answer- so be ready to become a lithium expert!
Hey Julie,
I have been taking lithium for the past 4 years. I think it’s a great drug, and I have accepted the fact that I need to take it for the rest of my life as long as it doesn’t poop out on me or destroy my organs. I wondered if you take it or have taken it, and if so, how low a dosage did you take? My other question is do you know ***how low*** do people ever go with lithium – of course everyone is different, everyone has different blood levels of it, etc., so that’s a difficult question to answer well, but I figured I’d throw it your way. I currently take 900 mg of lithium a night, with no adverse side effects (thank God) and my blood level is at the low end of the therapeutic range. .7 I think. THANKS for anything you can share with me! Take care, Dyane
Hi Dyane,
Your question has many levels- the kind of question I like!
First of all, drug efficacy as well as side effects are completely dependent on our physiology. It’s about the brain and the liver as this is basically the train station for most drugs. My coauthor Dr. John Preston has a theory that those who experience severe side effects tend to keep a med in the liver for a longer period- which means the meds stay in the body longer. Interesting theory.
Lithium, unlike most bipolar disorder medications is processed through the kidneys. Kidneys are sensitive creatures which is why people taking lithium absolutely must have blood tests to measure their lithium level. I talk to a lot of people who take lithium and the main reason they go off of lithium even though it’s working is for kidney safety. This is usually after taking the drug for many years. You don’t have to be scared to take lithium- you just have to be careful.
I started lithium last year and it has profoundly changed my life. Though it’s basically an anti mania drug, it’s also used for serious depression. I added Zoloft to the lithium and kept on my Lamictal. I also take Ritalin and use Ativan when I can’t sleep.
My lithium side effects were off the chart for months- weight gain, fogginess, apathy ( a very serious side effect), memory loss and sleepiness- intense sleepiness. But I waited it out. Maybe I just gave my liver and kidneys enough time to process all of pills. I am depression free for the first time in ten years. Interestingly, my lithium levels have stayed the same even though my side effects have lessened considerably.
I’m glad the lithium is also working for you and you don’t have side effects. Awesome!
This means that my brain/body reacted differently to the lithium than yours. I wish I were more like you.
Regarding lithium levels: the goal is 1.0, but this is just a benchmark. It’s mostly to make sure people don’t go in to lithium toxicity. All med dosages are based off average milligrams, but it’s common to go way under and way beyond the dosage with meds such as Lamictal. For example, my mom takes 125 mg for her depression and I take 700mg. Lithium dosage is more compact. Most people I know who take lithium are between 900-1200 mg. But this is not really the important statistic- it’s all about the lithium level in the blood.
The reason I’m writing an encyclopedia here is to point out that successful lithium use is a combination of a dosage that works with the minimum of side effects and a level as close to 1.0 as possible. Your .7 level is very close to 1.0 and is not low at all. When my friend Sharon went to the hospital in a manic episode, her lithium level was at .3 That was too low for her and the mania broke through. But, this isn’t to say that a low level will not work for someone else. If it works, it works. We just have to keep it from going too high. It’s so important to remember that when blood levels are too high it can lead to lithium toxicity which can ruin the kidneys.
I was in and out of an extremely severe depression for almost five years. Lithium with added Zoloft saved my life. To be honest, I would give up a kidney for this, but I prefer to stay healthy! This is why I get my lithium level checked regularly. I’m glad it works for you. Lithium works well with other drugs, so if any of you reading this are desperate for relief, lithium may be the answer.
You are now an expert on lithium! Julie
Hi, Julie.
Hi Donna,
Yes, meds can be so up and down. Get it!
I am better and I owe a lot of it to meds- but I want to assure people that I feel meds are 50% of my plan- the other 50% requires management strategies.
I hope your kidneys are ok- I know that I will have to face that one day. I am ready.
It may be that a drug that didn’t work for you in the past can work now.
Blood tests are needed close together when you start lithium and then can go to six months. It depends on your HCP. And yes- you are right- we have to be proactive!
Oh please oh please let our meds keep working. They are such a good foundation for our other strategies!
Once again, good luck! Julie
Julie, thanks once again for taking the time to write this insightful response to my question. You’re a wonderful and inspiring writer and person. I’m so glad you are feeling good!!!! Woo hoo!
Hi Julie..
I am really confused.. My thyroid TSH is .0022 I know that is way off. My doc wants to give me lithium.. but I am going to an endo doc soon. I have been treated for depression in past. but my T3 and T4 are in the high range.
I am wondering what is going on with me? my other TSH was .05 an .07
I am taking magnesium and ativan.. but Ativan scares me due to the addicting
aspects..
Hi Julie: My husband (bipolar 2) is complaining of memory issues associated with his Lamictal. It’s bad enough that it’s interfering with his work. His initial plan is to go off the meds (with Dr. supervision). To be honest, that scares me. His Lithium/Lamictal combo is still effective (9 years this December). He forgets and is underplaying the process it took to find this proper combo of meds. Have you come across “Nootropics” in your research? If so, what is your opinion of the effectiveness? Do you know of other supplements that can be taken to offset memory issues with Lamictal and/or Lithium? Thanks much! I’m working through your book and cards with my teen daughter who was recently diagnosed with several depression/anxiety disorder (likely also Bipolar 2 like her dad). It’s been more helpful than therapy. 🙂
Lithium levels and TSH levels are the inverse of each other. If the TSH goes high, the lithium level is too low. And if the lithium dose is increased, it could (and usually does) suppress the TSH. It becomes a never-ending cycle. It’s hard to find a happy medium when you’re working with 2 doctors who each strive for perfect levels. Instead, you get a see-saw effect with both drugs. Everyone’s different and tolerance is different. In some cases, a choice is made: Go for a normal thyroid level and sacrifice the lithium or vice-versa – whatever drug is needed most for functioning. Not an ideal situation, unfortunately. (One thing re: thyroid testing: TSH results are totally worthless without a free T4. Most doctors, other than endocrinologists, don’t know this and order only a TSH with reflex to free T4, but you don’t get an accurate reading for thyroid function that way. When you get a lab order, insist on a free T4.